Recent test takers report question #11 from the April 2002 (am) exam is in the Patent Bar database of tested questions.
Questions 11 and 12 are based on the following factual background. Consider questions 11 and 12 independently of each other.
Applicant files a patent application in Japan on February 28, 1996. Applicant files a PCT international application designating the United States on February 27, 1997, based on the Japanese application. The international application is published in English on August 28, 1997. The international application enters the national stage in the United States on August 28, 1998. The USPTO publishes the application on June 7, 2001 at the request of the applicant. The application issues as a United States patent on December 4, 2001.
11. When examining an application filed on or after November 29, 2000 or any application that has been voluntarily published, what is its earliest possible prior art date, for the June 7th U.S. published application in view of 35 U.S.C. § 102(e) as amended by the American Inventors Protection Act of 1999?
(A) February 28, 1996.
(B) February 27, 1997.
(C) August 28, 1997.
(D) August 28, 1998.
(E) June 7, 2001.
11. ANSWER: (B) is the most correct answer. 35 U.S.C. § 102(e)(1) provides that a USPTO published application, based on an earlier international application, has prior art effect as of its international filing date, if the international application designated the United States, and was published in English. Because in the above fact pattern, the international application designated the United States and was published in English, the USPTO published application is entitled to its international filing date of February 27, 1997 for prior art purposes. (A) is wrong because the Japanese filing date is relevant under 35 U.S.C. § 119 only for priority, but not for prior art purposes. (C) and (E) are wrong because they recite prior art dates that are later than February 27, 1997. (D) is wrong because the amendments to § 102(e) by the American Inventors Protection Act of 1999 make the national stage entry date irrelevant for prior art purposes.
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The 102(e) flow charts in MPEP 706.02(f) are extremely useful, and you may see up to a dozen questions on when a patent or patent application is available as prior art under 102(e).
Another reported question — The example from my exam is actually on 700-31
Example 4 + additional info
If the IA properly claimed priority to an earlier-filed US provisional application or the benefit of an earlier-filed US nonprovisional application, the 102(e) date for all references would be the filing date of the EARLIER-FILED US application
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The question here Agent_X (should you chose to accept it) is why, then, “D” was the correct answer to April 2002 #11, AM.
I have no doubt you can answer it, just a non sequitor what you posted + the key to this question.
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My answer key says “B” is the correct answer to that question.
The answer appears to be in agreement with Example 3 on 700-30
I am completely confused by this question and the answer. Is it just me or are there facts missing from the fact pattern.
The explanation given justifying ‘answer B’ I think is wrong. Pre 11/29/2000 PCT application publication never gets a 102e date.
Thats not true
question is missing facts.
Here are the missing facts:
Applicant files a patent application in Japan on February 28, 1996. Applicant files a PCT
international application designating the United States on February 27, 1997, based on
the Japanese application. The international application is published in English on August
28, 1997. The international application enters the national stage in the United States on
August 28, 1998. The USPTO publishes the application on June 7, 2001 at the request of
the applicant. The application issues as a United States patent on December 4, 2001.
102e date prior ro 11/29/2000 would have been when all the Fee Oath and translation arrive at the PTO.
On or After 11/29/200 to get a 102e date the facts must have meet the three part test 1) after the magical 11/29/2000 2) PCT application was published in English and 3) designate the US. If all three of these were true then it get the 102e date of the PCT filing date.
In this case the patent in question was before 11/29/2000 so it depends on when enters national stage, facts say 8/28/1998 (D).
But the PTO answer guide does say “B”. This was cleared up to me by the expert John White’s contemperanious evaluation in which he concludes “the PTO answer follows the literal wording of the statute, but it completely contradicts the MPEP guidelines. The question is unanswerable.” Full text and explanation can be found on this web site.
Concur.
No offense, but its incorrect. Pre 11/29/00 PCT applications do not have any 102e, calculated 102e is applicable only for the patents (see below). If you look into the call of the question then I think its more complicated; its asking “102e for (not of) the June 7th U.S. published application’, which probably means the earliest 102e date of US National application (post 11/29/00)that can be applied to this application.
706.02(f)(1) MPEP700-29
If the international application has an international filing date prior to November 29, 2000, apply the reference under the provisions of 35 U.S.C. 102 and 374, prior to the AIPA amendments:
(a)
For U.S. patents, apply the reference under 35 U.S.C. 102(e) as of the earlier of the date of completion of the requirements of 35 U.S.C. 371(c)(1), (2) and (4) or the filing date of the later-filed U.S. application that claimed the benefit of the international application;
(b)
For U.S. application publications and WIPO publications directly resulting from international applications under PCT Article 21(2), never apply these references under 35 U.S.C. 102(e). These references may be applied as of their publication dates under 35 U.S.C. 102(a) or (b);
Is there any consensus on this question? I think Sandyboss is correct. The IA had a filing date before Nov. 29, 2000. The reference is a U.S. app publication, thus according to the flowchart on 700-40 there isn’t a 102(e) date. Am I missing something??
The answer to the question is definitely wrong. Here is the reason why. The question was asked BEFORE HR2215 was passed and came into effect in 2003 which fixed problems the implementation of 102(e) and clarified what to do with international applications filed before Nov 29, 2000. What HR2215 did was restore the rules governing international applications filed before Nov 29, 2000 (the 102(e) reference date under pre AIPA was the date the application entered the national stage). Since there was no published US applications under 35 USC 122(b) before AIPA, then they have no 102(e) date for pre Nov 29, 2000 international applications
For a great presentation of 102(e) with all of its permutations see: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/aipa/102e_hr2215slides.pps
The answer definitely is that there is no 102(e) reference to the published application. If they had asked if there was a 102(e) reference to the patent that issued from that fact senario, then the answer would have been the date it entered the national stage.
I love this site…
) If there is doubt for a specific question, for sure I will find it on this site within minutes…
I do agree that that answer for 11 is wrong… as there is no date for 102(e) (1)
Next, answer for 12 is also wrong… the patent date should be when 371(c) 1, 2 and 4 are fulfilled… not when patent was issued…
thx all!!
for triedandtested
why not? if you have an opinion, please state the reasoning behind it…
Alan Flum is absolutely correct. The question was written after the amendment imposed on 35 USC 102(e) by the American Inventors Protection Act but BEFORE the Intellectual Property and High Technology Technical Amendments Act, and therefore the answer choices are obsolete.
As of today:
It’s true that a publication after national stage entry, based on an IA filed before Nov. 29, 2000, does NOT have a 102(e) date. A patent, on the other hand, has a 102(e) date when the application was in compliance with the provisions of 371(c)(1),(2),(4), i.e., when it reached the national stage.
Here’s something I found from patentbarquestions.com. A thumb rule! Seems to work in most cases.
I found it useful.
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Here is some information you may find helpful in understanding 102(e) dates.
The key to understanding 102(e) date is to understand that the 102(e) date is the effective U.S. filing date.
Here is a condensed explanation of the 102(e) rule. It works every time. You won’t have to remember complicated
charts, rules or flow charts. Here it is:
102(e) reference date of a U.S. patent, published U.S. patent application, or WIPO publication is the
“earliest effective U.S. filing date” of that document. If the document doesn’t have an “earliest effective
U.S. filing date”, then it does not have a 102(e) reference date.
An International Application (IA) can be considered part of the chain of the earliest effective U.S. filing date if:
1) Filed on or after November 29, 2000;
2) WIPO publication is in English; and
3) The US is one of the designated countries
For US patents only, the National Stage Entry date, for the purpose of this analysis, is considered
the earliest effective U.S. filing date if:
1) IA filed before November 29, 2000
2) The US is one of the designated countries
Otherwise, it should not be considered.
Note:
A foreign application filed under 35 USC §119(a)-(d) is never considered an earliest effective U.S. filing date;
see MPEP 706.02. Don’t confuse “earliest effect filing date”, which is used to claim priority benefit
and is a shield against prior art, with “earliest effective U.S. filing date”.
This is something I found from freepatentbar.com outline.
Patent as prior art, 102(e):
PCT applications are handled differently:
1. Filed in PCT prior to Nov 29, 2000: Follow the date it entered the national phase at the USPTO
2. Filed in PCT on/after Nov 29, 2000 AND Published in English: Follow PCT filing date
3. Filed in PCT on/after Nov 29, 2000 AND NOT published in English: Becomes prior art under (a) or (b) upon issue date. Not Prior art under this subsection.
Hope this thumb rule helps!
I think the answer is E.
Can somebody pl tell me, June 7th of ……..year?
That would make a huge difference in getting the answer right.
Thank you,
Sorry S. Updated the question above.
This is a bum question. It is caught in the rule change. I never go by the flow charts though. I go by the text in 706.02(f)(1) Examination Guidelines for Applying References Under
35 U.S.C. 102(e).
This seems to work best for me.