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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to say I studied effectively for two months.</description>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I passed the patent bar on Feb 1.   This was definitely a protracted ordeal as I started studying for the exam back on August 2009 but caught the swine flu and couldn&#039;t take the exam before law school resumed.  With two kids, law school and interning I couldn&#039;t handle studying so I stopped.  I resumed studying August 2010 and studied for three weeks but got 62%.  Couldn&#039;t study during law school and had a baby Dec 2010.  Finally got around to studying again Dec 2011 for three weeks and got 64%.  I had technical difficulties during the exam, couldn&#039;t search the supplements.  Complained to Prometric and OED, got a refund, retook and passed on Feb 1.   Moral of the story, be persistent if you don&#039;t pass and retake it ASAP!!!

The first half of my exam had long fact patterns.  I felt like I was solving long math equations for three hours!  If you know the fundamentals, it&#039;s not bad - just very long and time consuming.  The second half had really short fact patterns so I was excited because I thought it would be easier.  Boy was I deceived!  They were such obscure questions.  I remember thinking, &quot;really, the PTO wants us to know this?  Why?&quot;  

I cannot stress learning to search the MPEP enough.  Learn to search the MPEP.  Learn to search the MPEP.  Learn to search the MPEP.  If I had not forced myself to learn how to search the MPEP when I studied this last time, I don&#039;t think I would have passed.  The first two times taking the exam, I tried to memorize everything.  When I didn&#039;t pass, I knew I had to change my approach so I searched the MPEP for every answer choice in the old exams this time around.

My ex-boss (patent attorney) said the patent bar was a turkey hunt.  I didn&#039;t know what he meant by that, but know I understand.  You need to learn how to search effectively for key words in the answers.  I noticed that if I used the verbs in the answer choices, I had a high likelihood of finding it in the MPEP.  During the exam, I even ended up searching using some Latin phrase because it was in one of the answer choices and I found it and was able to answer the question.  

I took the exam in the Bay Area and again, had technical difficulties.  This time, I was unable to search the MPEP whereas last time, I wasn&#039;t able to search the supplements.  I complained to Prometric, Ms. Knucker yesterday and today.  I also complained to a staff attorney at OED on Tuesday.   I was unable to search the MPEP whenever the computer felt like it didn&#039;t want to search, it was so random.  For instance, at times I could search Appeals but then at other times I couldn&#039;t.  VERY FRUSTRATING!  

I studied effectively for a total of three months for the exam.  

Good luck everybody and if you have any questions, feel free to email me at sertag@hotmail.  I have some study aids I can email you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I passed the patent bar on Feb 1.   This was definitely a protracted ordeal as I started studying for the exam back on August 2009 but caught the swine flu and couldn&#8217;t take the exam before law school resumed.  With two kids, law school and interning I couldn&#8217;t handle studying so I stopped.  I resumed studying August 2010 and studied for three weeks but got 62%.  Couldn&#8217;t study during law school and had a baby Dec 2010.  Finally got around to studying again Dec 2011 for three weeks and got 64%.  I had technical difficulties during the exam, couldn&#8217;t search the supplements.  Complained to Prometric and OED, got a refund, retook and passed on Feb 1.   Moral of the story, be persistent if you don&#8217;t pass and retake it ASAP!!!</p>
<p>The first half of my exam had long fact patterns.  I felt like I was solving long math equations for three hours!  If you know the fundamentals, it&#8217;s not bad &#8211; just very long and time consuming.  The second half had really short fact patterns so I was excited because I thought it would be easier.  Boy was I deceived!  They were such obscure questions.  I remember thinking, &#8220;really, the PTO wants us to know this?  Why?&#8221;  </p>
<p>I cannot stress learning to search the MPEP enough.  Learn to search the MPEP.  Learn to search the MPEP.  Learn to search the MPEP.  If I had not forced myself to learn how to search the MPEP when I studied this last time, I don&#8217;t think I would have passed.  The first two times taking the exam, I tried to memorize everything.  When I didn&#8217;t pass, I knew I had to change my approach so I searched the MPEP for every answer choice in the old exams this time around.</p>
<p>My ex-boss (patent attorney) said the patent bar was a turkey hunt.  I didn&#8217;t know what he meant by that, but know I understand.  You need to learn how to search effectively for key words in the answers.  I noticed that if I used the verbs in the answer choices, I had a high likelihood of finding it in the MPEP.  During the exam, I even ended up searching using some Latin phrase because it was in one of the answer choices and I found it and was able to answer the question.  </p>
<p>I took the exam in the Bay Area and again, had technical difficulties.  This time, I was unable to search the MPEP whereas last time, I wasn&#8217;t able to search the supplements.  I complained to Prometric, Ms. Knucker yesterday and today.  I also complained to a staff attorney at OED on Tuesday.   I was unable to search the MPEP whenever the computer felt like it didn&#8217;t want to search, it was so random.  For instance, at times I could search Appeals but then at other times I couldn&#8217;t.  VERY FRUSTRATING!  </p>
<p>I studied effectively for a total of three months for the exam.  </p>
<p>Good luck everybody and if you have any questions, feel free to email me at sertag@hotmail.  I have some study aids I can email you.</p>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one other question:   Did you happen to see anything about submitting/protecting Trade Secrets in the application, per http://patentbar.wordpress.com/?p=105</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one other question:   Did you happen to see anything about submitting/protecting Trade Secrets in the application, per <a href="http://patentbar.wordpress.com/?p=105" rel="nofollow">http://patentbar.wordpress.com/?p=105</a></p>
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		<title>By: Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave!  A few more questions for you:

1) Roughly how many PCT questions did you see, and how similar were the concepts in those questions to the exercises/software from PLI?

2) Were the &quot;hydrocycolone&quot; and &quot;door handle means plus function claim&quot; among the repeats?

3) did you ever go into any of the supplemental materials, and if so, did you experience any technical problems with the test?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave!  A few more questions for you:</p>
<p>1) Roughly how many PCT questions did you see, and how similar were the concepts in those questions to the exercises/software from PLI?</p>
<p>2) Were the &#8220;hydrocycolone&#8221; and &#8220;door handle means plus function claim&#8221; among the repeats?</p>
<p>3) did you ever go into any of the supplemental materials, and if so, did you experience any technical problems with the test?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I studied using an old copy of the PLI course.  For about 4+ weeks studying 3-4 hours a day, then about 6-8 hours for the final week.

I did mostly practice tests on patware and of course, I used this site to make sure I was familiar with all the repeats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I studied using an old copy of the PLI course.  For about 4+ weeks studying 3-4 hours a day, then about 6-8 hours for the final week.</p>
<p>I did mostly practice tests on patware and of course, I used this site to make sure I was familiar with all the repeats.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 01:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update, Dave!! May I ask how you studied for the test and how many hours you put in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update, Dave!! May I ask how you studied for the test and how many hours you put in?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just passed today and saw zero questions dealing with the newly testable materials.  Maybe they haven&#039;t been integrated into the exam yet....  Or, I just didn&#039;t realize that they were testing the new materials b/c I never bothered to study them.

There were a few questions on KSR and maybe a couple dealing with Bilski.

Plus, the usual 15 - 20 repeats from past exams.  Off the top of my head:

the &quot;moondust&quot; question 
the &quot;147&quot; as the answer - claim counting question.
Laurel, abbot and Hardy

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just passed today and saw zero questions dealing with the newly testable materials.  Maybe they haven&#8217;t been integrated into the exam yet&#8230;.  Or, I just didn&#8217;t realize that they were testing the new materials b/c I never bothered to study them.</p>
<p>There were a few questions on KSR and maybe a couple dealing with Bilski.</p>
<p>Plus, the usual 15 &#8211; 20 repeats from past exams.  Off the top of my head:</p>
<p>the &#8220;moondust&#8221; question<br />
the &#8220;147&#8243; as the answer &#8211; claim counting question.<br />
Laurel, abbot and Hardy</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we&#039;ve all seen those, but we want to see what kind of questions they&#039;re asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we&#8217;ve all seen those, but we want to see what kind of questions they&#8217;re asking.</p>
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		<title>By: hope to pass</title>
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		<dc:creator>hope to pass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the new AIA materials for the exam are listed as points 7-9 on the following USPTO website:

http://www.uspto.gov/ip/boards/oed/aia_regexamsourcematerial.jsp

I&#039;ve downloaded these materials (in addition to the Bilski and KSR materials (Points 2-6) and it looks like they are no more than 60 pages (including 2-9)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the new AIA materials for the exam are listed as points 7-9 on the following USPTO website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.uspto.gov/ip/boards/oed/aia_regexamsourcematerial.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.uspto.gov/ip/boards/oed/aia_regexamsourcematerial.jsp</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve downloaded these materials (in addition to the Bilski and KSR materials (Points 2-6) and it looks like they are no more than 60 pages (including 2-9)</p>
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		<title>By: Aerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I am wondering too since my exam is on coming Saturday....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am wondering too since my exam is on coming Saturday&#8230;.</p>
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