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1 thwallsNo Gravatar May 17, 2010 at 11:08 am

I’m taking the exam tomorrow at 11:00. Thanks for all the help. For someone like me who couldn’t afford PLI, your outlines were a Godsend. I just took the April 2003 exam yesterday, fully timed and using the CatPrep software, 88/100. Hopefully with all of the studying and taking all the other exams, I should be ready to go. After going through the info on this site and the Bullseye material, the lowest I’ve gotten on any test was a 75/100. I still make stupid mistakes at least a couple times on the test, but that’s just how I roll.

Thanks again!

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2 SNo Gravatar May 17, 2010 at 2:36 pm

Good luck!

Would be waiting for a word from you!

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3 SallyNo Gravatar May 17, 2010 at 11:16 am

thwalls,

Good Luck!
Bring us back a new question and let us know how it goes.

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4 newtopatentbarNo Gravatar May 17, 2010 at 5:25 pm

thwalls,
Good Luck! We are waiting for good news from you. Have a good night of sleep today.

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5 SNo Gravatar May 18, 2010 at 8:46 am

Earlier there was a drop down list of all the exam questions section. Can we pl have it back? That was more user friendly, IMHO!

Thank you

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6 thwallsNo Gravatar May 18, 2010 at 6:38 pm

PASSED!!!

Lots of repeats (20-30) and also some weird questions.

By weird I mean there was one on trade secrets and if/when they are disclosed to the public when pertinent to the examination.

There was quite a few reissue questions and lots of appeals question. There was definitely fewer PCT questions than I thought there’d be. It seemed like the material came heavily out of the 2002 and 2003 exams, so I’d know those by heart. I still couldn’t believe how many repeats there were.

The software is very easy to use, the only thing that frustrated me was that you couldn’t search the whole MPEP with the Find feature. You had to go chapter by chapter if you were unsure of the location of the pertinent information.

But not too bad all the way around, finished the first half with 25 minutes left, and finished the second half (much easier!) with about an hour left – and that was after I went back and checked all my answers.

If you study hard you can nail this thing. Good Luck to all those who still have to take the test!

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7 SNo Gravatar May 18, 2010 at 9:39 pm

Congrats!!!

Any new questions?

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8 SNo Gravatar May 19, 2010 at 9:38 am

Thwalls!

Does each chapter show subsections on the side when you open any particular chapter? Not just the sections, but the subsections?

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9 thwallsNo Gravatar May 19, 2010 at 10:45 am

Unfortunately I can’t really remember if there were any new questions. In general most of the questions seemed really straight forward. And once I got going, it felt like I was flying through it. I only took 5 mins for the optional 1 hour break and shot through the whole test in about 5 hours.

As for the chapters, you get a drop down menu of which chapter you want (Including all the appendices) then you open the chapter. When it opens you get the sections of the chapter on the left side, that you can jump to (I found this amazingly useful with Appendix R), and the text is in the right. The search feature is on the top left.

Also, whenever you close the MPEP to go back to the question, the next time you open it up it takes you back to the exact page that you were on before. Also, the MPEP opens up in a new window. I was opening it, and then moving it around the screen so that I could read the answer choices against the text in certain questions where one answer contained a “not” or “never” modifier and the MPEP didn’t. I thought that in certain aspects it was more user friendly than my own copy of the MPEP.

10 SNo Gravatar May 18, 2010 at 8:46 pm

congrats!

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11 SNo Gravatar May 19, 2010 at 7:07 pm

Thank you so much!

This is very helpful. Atleast it helps to be prepared.

Thank you once again.

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12 zenaNo Gravatar May 20, 2010 at 3:24 pm

Hi Thwalls,

Congratulations!

I have bought the bullseye prep and cannot afford the PLI or any other prep material. Could you please let me know how you prepared for the exam?

I’ve been reading through the outlines provided on this site and looking at previous exams, i sometimes browse through the MPEP chapters but I am not sure if I am preparing the correct way … already spent 6 weeks on this

I am particularly concerned about finding answers in the MPEP. Say, I have extra time on the exam, how would I go about searching for the answers? Was there a way you prepared to know what subjects were important and where you can find them? Sometimes I end up looking at the wrong chapter :/

Thank you so much and congratulations again

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13 thwallsNo Gravatar May 20, 2010 at 11:16 pm

One of the major outlines I used was from http://www.freepatentbar.com, but he recently took his outline down. That one laid out exactly how to approach studying for the test but here’s my two bits. People are going to disagree with this, but I found it incredibly helpful to study just like this:

Step 1: Read Sections 1, 10, and 41 of Appendix R in their entirety.
Appendix R is the root of the majority of questions that you will be asked. Moreover, most if not all, of the MPEP chapters are derived from Appendix R. You don’t need to read it for content and recall, just get familiar with it, start to learn where things are and what some of the popular sections are (i.e. 1.17, 1.48, 1.53, 1.55, 1.131, 1.181, 1.312, etc.)

Step 2. Read the outline that is on this website in it’s entirety and then look at the focus sections on 600, 700, 1200, 1400, 1800, and 2100 as these are some of the most tested sections of the MPEP. Learn the core concepts. And after you finish reading these, read 700, 1800, and 2100 again.

Step 3. Read the Bullseye outline that you have, it’s very good and gives you a great overview but isn’t as good as the stuff on this website. I got it more for the questions that it provided.

Step 4. By this point you should have a general understanding of the process of filing the application, replying to OAs, and what happens when you’re either finally rejected or allowed. Right now is when you dive into your first practice exam, I’d recommend one of the 2002 or 2003 exams. (Focus on the exams from 2000 to 2003 since before 2000 the rule changes may cause confusion.) When you do this exam concentrate on faithfully searching the MPEP using only the Find feature as it will be what you have on the real deal.

Also, take the Table of Contents and print out 2-3 copies and carry one with you and post another next to your desk. Memorize this until you know the sections by heart since you will not be able to search the MPEP in its entirety on the exam, you can only search chapter by chapter.

So you work through an entire test, un-timed at this point, and see how you did (FYI, I got an 11/50 on the AM, and a 6/50 on the PM of my first test). Go through every answer (this part sucks). On the questions you got right, learn from the answer key why the right answer IS right and also WHY the wrong answers are wrong for every answer choice. Then you do this for every question you got wrong as well. When the answer key mentions a part of the MPEP like Section 608 in reference to multiple dependent claims, go to that section and read about it. Learn to search the MPEP and by doing this you’ll learn the landscape of the MPEP which will better enable you to find the information you need on exam day.

Step 5. So the exam should be an eye opening experience at this point, and now you’re ready to make your second pass at the Bullseye outline while working on the repeat questions that pop up. (I used to do them 5 questions at a time every day). Also, pick up another exam and start working it out. You don’t have to do the whole thing, just take 25 questions and try to do them in 90 minutes. Repeat this process until the exam is done, and once again go through all the answer choices in gratuitous detail.

By now you should know where your weaknesses are and you should be getting a handle on what you need to work on. For me it was 1800 and the PCT. I had a lot of trouble with that, so I worked on the Bullseye 1800 focus questions as well as going through the outline that’s on here that is only about 1800.

Also remember, that this is a LOT of information that you have to be able to understand, and most of the information is interconnected which makes the whole thing that much more complicated. So be sure to give yourself the time you need to get through it all. There are no shortcuts, there is no easy way out, you just have to put the work into learning how take the test. If you put in about 200-300 hours (probably closer to 300) you’ll be just fine.

GOOD LUCK!

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14 ZeinaNo Gravatar May 26, 2010 at 12:11 am

Thank you so much for your thorough reply. I really appreciate it.

15 ZenaNo Gravatar May 27, 2010 at 10:57 am

Hi again Thwalls,

I was wondering if you’d recommend reading MPEP chapters as well? I have read/skimmed through sections of it. Whenever I start reading the chapters, I end up not finishing as I am not sure if reading them is helpful or waste of time.

What is your opinion on this? Thank you so much again!

16 thwallsNo Gravatar June 8, 2010 at 1:26 am

Zena

I wouldn’t read the MPEP chapters in their entirety, just read the relevant sections that you might have trouble with. For example, Sections 700 and 2100 are beasts and reading them will only confuse you. But you should use the outlines that you have to act as guide posts to direct you to the sections that you might want more depth on, and then read the relevant sections but don’t get into too much depth in the MPEP chapters.

17 SNo Gravatar May 25, 2010 at 9:34 am

10 more days to go!!!!

Can somebody pl tell me what we can take to the exam? I am planning on taking 3-4 pens(different colors) for help with my cheat sheet. Can I also take a ruler?

Thanks a lot.

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18 thwallsNo Gravatar May 25, 2010 at 12:22 pm

Just bring your ID, that’s all they’re going to let you take into the exam room. You’ll be issued 2 pencils and they will give you a booklet of scrap paper. Before you go in, you’ll give them your ID and they’ll tell you to turn your pockets inside out. I’m dead serious, I brought all sorts of stuff in a clear plastic bag like I did for the LSAT and they told me to leave it all in a locker. So I would just take some snacks to leave in the locker and your ID.

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19 SNo Gravatar May 25, 2010 at 8:59 pm

That’s too bad!

Thank you very much.

20 SNo Gravatar May 27, 2010 at 3:44 pm

I think I am exhausted.

Can somebody clarify to me if an RCE under 1.114 is entitled to the benefit of Certificate of Mailing/transmission under 1.8?

I am so mentally drained.

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21 RofelNo Gravatar May 28, 2010 at 6:15 pm

passed in my first try today!

I can imagine your anxiety S.. just study 2001-2003 concepts.. the point for this is to save time on repeats plus the confidence that it gives in approaching exam day..

new Q that I can remember: in a rejection based on new ground by BOPAI, which of the following are in accordance with MPEP…

a.) after denial by examiner of claims that were reopened before him, the applicant can make a second appeal.. (this is true)

b.) if the claims were abandoned before the examiner, the claims are forwarded to BOPAI for final adjudication.. (this is false)

c.) sorry cant remember but the rest are way off the mark..

the rest of the questions are actually discussed in this site.. i will be back with some more when my mind is settled..

BTW, anybody in here who took alabama bar exams? im looking for some materials..

One more, anybody who knows how to find a recruiter? especially if i want to work outside America?

Good luck to all..

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22 SNo Gravatar May 29, 2010 at 1:18 pm

Congratulations!!!

Do you remember any other new questions?

Thank you.

23 Luca PaoluzziNo Gravatar February 19, 2013 at 5:07 pm

Hello Rofel,

I hope this finds you well.

I would be interested in taking the patent bar exam in order to become a patent agent. I’ve been working for 6 years as a Mechanical Engineer and I never studied law.

Would you be so kind to tell me what you think it would be the best way to approach the study of the subjects required to pass the exam?
Material I should buy, courses on line or in class I should take (it seems this PLI is very useful). I live in Los Angeles, CA.

Your help is really appreciated.

Thanks and best regards,
Luca.

24 ObviousNo Gravatar February 19, 2013 at 8:59 pm

Hey…Luca check the dates of the target of your questions…good chance that Rofel has long ago left this site having passed the exam over two years ago.

25 JamesNo Gravatar June 30, 2011 at 2:35 pm

Hey guys. First of all, this site is great. I’ve been doing a PLI course which has been very helpful, but the collection of resources here blows PLI away.

I have a question about the “repeat questions” section. First of all, is it up to date? Are questions removed as they cease to appear on the exam?

Thanks!

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26 JNo Gravatar November 15, 2011 at 1:05 am

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Good luck.

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35 CRWNo Gravatar January 15, 2014 at 12:19 am

Can anyone compare the PLI and Omni bar prep materials? Which of these are best for the new exam? I have not heard much independent info re: Wysebrigde or others, so any insight would be helpful.

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36 BfusionNo Gravatar January 15, 2014 at 8:13 am

Hey CRW,

If you are unable to get any feedback here about study programs, please let me know and I can gladly put you in touch with various individuals who have used Wysebridge, PLI, omniprep, etc.

all the best to you!

~Bfusion

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37 Kansasman2014No Gravatar January 15, 2014 at 11:24 am

I used PLI, it’s great and well covering the AIA materials and a lot of questions that help you digest the new rules. Obviously, the cost is also high. Good luck.

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38 RadNo Gravatar January 15, 2014 at 4:48 pm

I agree with Kansasman2014 PLI is the way to go a lot of the stuff out there is 1) outdated or 2) just a reproduction of this site with subscription costs. If you are interested I had just passed and am selling my current AIA PLI material at a substantial reduction. If interested you can email me at Rad_Smolinski at yahoo.com

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39 CRWNo Gravatar January 15, 2014 at 10:31 pm

Rad, did you use any other programs as well? Thanks for the offer. I am considering it.

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40 RadNo Gravatar January 20, 2014 at 2:56 pm

Not really I stuck with PLI and before the exam trolled this site. I think PLI is by far one of the best programs out there.

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41 Kansasman2014No Gravatar January 16, 2014 at 11:25 am

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42 patent attorneyNo Gravatar January 16, 2014 at 4:31 pm

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43 Kansasman2014No Gravatar January 16, 2014 at 6:16 pm

I have the new PLI, and I have to disagree. Great course and materials.

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44 CRWNo Gravatar January 17, 2014 at 1:42 am

patent attorney, who is longacre? Did you use it? Did you develop it? A little context would be nice, if you can provide it.

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45 patent attorneyNo Gravatar February 19, 2014 at 1:06 pm

Go to Amazon.com, type in Longacre. He’s been around 35 years, much older than me. PLI is worthless dated, patbar.com is a joke.

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46 JoannaNo Gravatar February 28, 2014 at 8:56 pm

This may be a stupid question but what section is the AIA material listed under in the MPEP or on the exam? I know the 102 stuff was directly changed in the laws but in terms of smaller stuff like business method patent review, it is all just scattered? Thanks!

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47 Kansasman2014No Gravatar March 4, 2014 at 2:53 pm

It will be scattered but not in the MPEP but in federal registers. Also, there are minor changes in different chapters of the MPEP, e.g. Appeals. I just passed the exam in January and I am offering my PLI materials for sale. If you are interested email me at kansasman2014 at yahoo

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48 Bfusion.No Gravatar March 1, 2014 at 7:32 am

Joanna,

The AIA (well, most of it..) documents for the exam will be in separate locations from the MPEP (in federal registers). Remember, the MPEP on the exam is E8R9, so anything changed to laws/rules post the issuance of e8r9…is not there.

Till this works it’s way into a revised MPEP/laws/rules…you’ll have to comb through supplemental documents.

Hope that helps!

Bfusion
http://www.wysebridge.com

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49 psnarkNo Gravatar April 1, 2014 at 7:27 pm

passed it on the first try earlier today (April 1, 2014). Unfortunately, I did not get a ton of repeat questions, and trust me, I memorized them all. Maybe 6 in total. I used PLI and I studied off and on throughout the year, but then I really studied in the last three weeks. I’m glad its done and over with, but considering the new MPEP has updated so many chapters, I would advise people on holding off just a couple weeks to see if the new MPEP will be available for the exam. (I had 8v9.)

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50 km1990No Gravatar April 3, 2014 at 9:50 pm

Congrats! Which topics/sections were most heavily covered on the exam? Also, any sections that had more/less questions than you expected? Thanks!!!

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51 PsnarkNo Gravatar April 6, 2014 at 10:41 pm

the NDA makes it difficult to figure out what is ok to discuss but what I will say is that the AM portion made me hate what everyone on the web and PLI had said about what to focus. I finished the AM but with more lookup than I would have liked. the PM section was exactly what I had prepared for so I had ample time. I assume I did so well on the PM that it didn’t matter that the AM section sucked.

52 Bfusion.No Gravatar April 7, 2014 at 6:51 am

Psnark,

Congrats on the pass…and, as you mentioned, knowing what is “ok” to talk about concerning the exam is vague (although, if one wanted, you could interpret the wording on the NDA to encompass literally anything about the exam).

Anyway, many many congrats on passing the exam, and all the best to you!

~Bfusion

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