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	<title>Comments on: Q) 102(b) dates (4.00.41p)</title>
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		<title>By: Mambo5</title>
		<link>http://mypatentbar.com/2008/08/25/q-102b-dates-40041p/#comment-29644</link>
		<dc:creator>Mambo5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think 102(b) is out because there was no &quot;printed publication or patent&quot; more than one year before the US application.

The initial French app is not a publication.   Applications generally get published 18 months after filing, but here the French app was allowed and issued as a French patent before 18 months.   And the date of that French patent was less than one year before the US application, so it does not fall under 102(b) either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think 102(b) is out because there was no &#8220;printed publication or patent&#8221; more than one year before the US application.</p>
<p>The initial French app is not a publication.   Applications generally get published 18 months after filing, but here the French app was allowed and issued as a French patent before 18 months.   And the date of that French patent was less than one year before the US application, so it does not fall under 102(b) either.</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 21:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you elaborate why the answer is not  E. both 102b and 102d? Is it because the app ceases to be a publication under 102b once the patent is granted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you elaborate why the answer is not  E. both 102b and 102d? Is it because the app ceases to be a publication under 102b once the patent is granted?</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://mypatentbar.com/2008/08/25/q-102b-dates-40041p/#comment-22734</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2011 03:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the answer E then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the answer E then?</p>
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		<title>By: BigBadVoodoDaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBadVoodoDaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 14:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Q.
102a - this will apply only if it is a different inventive entity.
102d - this is only if it is the same inventive entity

102a and 102d will almost never be applied together, since one talks about the work or another and the other has to be the same person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Q.<br />
102a &#8211; this will apply only if it is a different inventive entity.<br />
102d &#8211; this is only if it is the same inventive entity</p>
<p>102a and 102d will almost never be applied together, since one talks about the work or another and the other has to be the same person.</p>
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		<title>By: patenttips</title>
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		<dc:creator>patenttips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha i made the same mistake too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha i made the same mistake too!</p>
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		<title>By: rhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 19:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, exact --same-- mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, exact &#8211;same&#8211; mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: rhm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha, yeah i made that exact came mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha, yeah i made that exact came mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind.  March and May are blurring together.  Not a good sign for when I take this test!  Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind.  March and May are blurring together.  Not a good sign for when I take this test!  Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator>AR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is answer B constitute prior art under 102(b)?
The foreign patent is not &quot;published MORE than one year prior,&quot; it is published just one year prior (not more than).  Does the PTO consider &quot;more than&quot; to fall on the same date one year later?

Just started studying, sorry if this is a stupid question!
Thanks for any help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is answer B constitute prior art under 102(b)?<br />
The foreign patent is not &#8220;published MORE than one year prior,&#8221; it is published just one year prior (not more than).  Does the PTO consider &#8220;more than&#8221; to fall on the same date one year later?</p>
<p>Just started studying, sorry if this is a stupid question!<br />
Thanks for any help</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to admit this. But I think I get more out of this site than the $XXXX PLI course, I wasted on Ebay.

I know I can find an answer in minutes on this site.

I can see why (A) is the answer for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to admit this. But I think I get more out of this site than the $XXXX PLI course, I wasted on Ebay.</p>
<p>I know I can find an answer in minutes on this site.</p>
<p>I can see why (A) is the answer for this.</p>
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